Again in 2010, two tomato care questions have reappeared here: "Should I prune off (snip off, pinch out) the first tomato flowers that appear, in order to get more tomatoes later?" And, "Do I need to prune my tomato plants?"
Those early tomato flowers, especially if the weather doesn’t cooperate, will fall all by themselves, thank you. Your assistance is not needed. And if you want to prune your tomato plant, you better have a damn good reason.
Flower drop and tomato fruit set failure can happen in May and June for a number of reasons, including night temperatures below 55; daytime temperatures above 90; excess nitrogen fertilizer, too much shade, too much smog, plants set out too early in spring, or planting the wrong variety for your area (Beefsteaks and San Francisco is not a match made in heaven).
However, by removing those flowers once they are in a situation where they can be pollinated successfully, what is accomplished by removing those flowers? FEWER TOMATOES! And, unless you are trying to stop production, it would be counterproductive to your ultimate goal: shoving that beautiful red orb into the face of your non-gardening neighbor in July, singing, “Nyah, nyah, nyah!”
Wow, where did this fallacy begin? One caller to the radio show offered a clue when he prefaced that question with, “Last night, the local TV Weatherman said…”
Bad move, taking gardening advice from a person who guesses for a living.
Still, that piece of poor advice must have some historic legs to it. And sure enough, there are many people at Internet gardening forums who are passing on this wrong-headed notion. And as far as I can tell, it’s the result of one gardener reading a piece of university-based research on tomato pruning, and mangling the retelling of that research.
For example, Texas A and M University offers these tips for tomatoes:
"Greenhouse/Hydroponic Tomato Culture (winter)
Single crop rotation-seeded in July or by early August. Transplants set in greenhouse within 10 to 30 days of seeding. Harvest begins from 85 to 100 days following date of seeding and continues into June or early July. Cessation of pollination is six weeks before termination of the crop. Growing point is allowed to grow for at least five to seven leaves above last fruit truss to help prevent sunburned fruit. Remove flower buds above last fruit truss to assure no additional fruit set."
Gardener A reads this, and then retells the story to Gardener B, omitting the fact that these were WINTER tomatoes grown in a GREENHOUSE, HYDROPONICALLY. Gardener B then tells Gardener C: “Pruning tomato flower buds is recommended by Texas A and M.” Gardener C then goes online and writes: “Remove flower buds on tomato plants to increase the number of tomatoes.”
Or something like that. And another digital gardening virus is born.
PRUNE YOUR TOMATO PLANTS? WHY?
Cornell University says hacking back your tomato plants is not necessary:
“…you can grow perfectly fine fruit without pruning your plants. But if you want to prune, here are a few guidelines. For determinate types, there is no need to prune at all. For indeterminate types, allow one, two, or three suckers to grow from the base of the plant. Each of these will become a main stem with lots of flowers and fruit. Prune off all the others suckers and provide the plants with strong support.
Research has shown that the best time to remove suckers is when they are about 3 to 4 inches long. For the semi-determinate types, limit your pruning. When the plant is 8 - 10 inches high, look carefully and observe the first flower cluster on the stem. Remove all the suckers below the flower cluster except for the one immediately below the cluster. You may have to go back and give these a second pruning 7 to 10 days later. Remove no more than that or you run the risk of pruning too much. The amount of pruning among these varieties to produce optimum yields varies. Some varieties would do better if you left 2 suckers below the flower cluster. Experiment and see which works best for the variety you are growing.”
The book, “Ortho’s All About Tomatoes”, puts it more succinctly, quoting the late Dr. Phillip Minges of Cornell: “Tomato yields per plant may be lowered by pruning. Removing the leaves or shoots does not conserve food for the crop, it tends to reduce the total food supply…use training methods that require little pruning.”
When and how should you prune tomatoes?
Very little, only when necessary, to keep the plants within bounds. If you grow your tomatoes in cages (recommended), you would only need to remove those branches that escape and are threatening to wrap itself around a nearby pepper plant.
If you grow your tomatoes using stakes for support, you may need to reach for your garden pruners, according to the University of California:
“Staked tomato plants usually require pruning to a few main stems. At the junction of each leaf and the first main stem, a new shoot will develop. Choose one to three of these shoots, normally at the first and second leaf-stem junction, for the additional main stems. Once a week, pinch off most of the other shoots, called suckers, with your fingers, to keep the plants from becoming to large for their support.”
And, it should be pointed out, that if you follow those pruning guidelines for staked tomatoes, you are sacrificing about 25% of your eventual tomato crop.
That is yet another good argument to cage, not stake your tomatoes.
Cages can be made from sheets or rolls of concrete reinforcement wire with a six inch mesh (the six inch opening makes it easier to reach those tomatoes). The sheets are usually 42” by 84”. Snip off the vertical bars on one of the 42” ends, bend it into a circle, attach the horizontal arms from the snipped end around the other 42” side and you have a tomato cage that’s 42” tall and about 27” in diameter. And it will last for decades. Want a bigger cage? Turn the sheet sideways, snip one of the long ends, bend it into a circle, and you have a cage that’s 84 inches tall and about a foot wide. But I would only do that if I am trying to grow tomatoes as per the instructions of a square foot garden.
And if you need another reason NOT to prune your tomato plants, there's this:
Sunscald (sunburn) of tomatoes. The fruit turns light brown and leathery on the side exposed to the sun. The solution? Don't prune the leaf cover from the plant!
A final hint when searching for garden answers on the Internet. Be leery of advice from gardening forums, unless that advice is linked to a study or research that you can also access. When using a search engine, include the words to identify a prominent agricultural school where the advice is reviewed by multiple parties before publication: UC (University of California), WSU (Washington State), Cornell, TAMU (Texas and M), etc.
For example Googling the phrase “tomato worm UC” will lead you to the University of California Integrated Pest Management website first. If you were to just enter the words, “tomato worm”, well…good luck.
Bad move, taking gardening advice from a person who guesses for a living.
Still, that piece of poor advice must have some historic legs to it. And sure enough, there are many people at Internet gardening forums who are passing on this wrong-headed notion. And as far as I can tell, it’s the result of one gardener reading a piece of university-based research on tomato pruning, and mangling the retelling of that research.
For example, Texas A and M University offers these tips for tomatoes:
"Greenhouse/Hydroponic Tomato Culture (winter)
Single crop rotation-seeded in July or by early August. Transplants set in greenhouse within 10 to 30 days of seeding. Harvest begins from 85 to 100 days following date of seeding and continues into June or early July. Cessation of pollination is six weeks before termination of the crop. Growing point is allowed to grow for at least five to seven leaves above last fruit truss to help prevent sunburned fruit. Remove flower buds above last fruit truss to assure no additional fruit set."
Gardener A reads this, and then retells the story to Gardener B, omitting the fact that these were WINTER tomatoes grown in a GREENHOUSE, HYDROPONICALLY. Gardener B then tells Gardener C: “Pruning tomato flower buds is recommended by Texas A and M.” Gardener C then goes online and writes: “Remove flower buds on tomato plants to increase the number of tomatoes.”
Or something like that. And another digital gardening virus is born.
PRUNE YOUR TOMATO PLANTS? WHY?
Cornell University says hacking back your tomato plants is not necessary:
“…you can grow perfectly fine fruit without pruning your plants. But if you want to prune, here are a few guidelines. For determinate types, there is no need to prune at all. For indeterminate types, allow one, two, or three suckers to grow from the base of the plant. Each of these will become a main stem with lots of flowers and fruit. Prune off all the others suckers and provide the plants with strong support.
Research has shown that the best time to remove suckers is when they are about 3 to 4 inches long. For the semi-determinate types, limit your pruning. When the plant is 8 - 10 inches high, look carefully and observe the first flower cluster on the stem. Remove all the suckers below the flower cluster except for the one immediately below the cluster. You may have to go back and give these a second pruning 7 to 10 days later. Remove no more than that or you run the risk of pruning too much. The amount of pruning among these varieties to produce optimum yields varies. Some varieties would do better if you left 2 suckers below the flower cluster. Experiment and see which works best for the variety you are growing.”
The book, “Ortho’s All About Tomatoes”, puts it more succinctly, quoting the late Dr. Phillip Minges of Cornell: “Tomato yields per plant may be lowered by pruning. Removing the leaves or shoots does not conserve food for the crop, it tends to reduce the total food supply…use training methods that require little pruning.”
When and how should you prune tomatoes?
Very little, only when necessary, to keep the plants within bounds. If you grow your tomatoes in cages (recommended), you would only need to remove those branches that escape and are threatening to wrap itself around a nearby pepper plant.
If you grow your tomatoes using stakes for support, you may need to reach for your garden pruners, according to the University of California:
“Staked tomato plants usually require pruning to a few main stems. At the junction of each leaf and the first main stem, a new shoot will develop. Choose one to three of these shoots, normally at the first and second leaf-stem junction, for the additional main stems. Once a week, pinch off most of the other shoots, called suckers, with your fingers, to keep the plants from becoming to large for their support.”
And, it should be pointed out, that if you follow those pruning guidelines for staked tomatoes, you are sacrificing about 25% of your eventual tomato crop.
That is yet another good argument to cage, not stake your tomatoes.
Cages can be made from sheets or rolls of concrete reinforcement wire with a six inch mesh (the six inch opening makes it easier to reach those tomatoes). The sheets are usually 42” by 84”. Snip off the vertical bars on one of the 42” ends, bend it into a circle, attach the horizontal arms from the snipped end around the other 42” side and you have a tomato cage that’s 42” tall and about 27” in diameter. And it will last for decades. Want a bigger cage? Turn the sheet sideways, snip one of the long ends, bend it into a circle, and you have a cage that’s 84 inches tall and about a foot wide. But I would only do that if I am trying to grow tomatoes as per the instructions of a square foot garden.
And if you need another reason NOT to prune your tomato plants, there's this:
Sunscald (sunburn) of tomatoes. The fruit turns light brown and leathery on the side exposed to the sun. The solution? Don't prune the leaf cover from the plant!
A final hint when searching for garden answers on the Internet. Be leery of advice from gardening forums, unless that advice is linked to a study or research that you can also access. When using a search engine, include the words to identify a prominent agricultural school where the advice is reviewed by multiple parties before publication: UC (University of California), WSU (Washington State), Cornell, TAMU (Texas and M), etc.
For example Googling the phrase “tomato worm UC” will lead you to the University of California Integrated Pest Management website first. If you were to just enter the words, “tomato worm”, well…good luck.
Yay for cages! Although, I have some tomatoes staked this year because I didn't cage them in time. Caging seems EASIER, I'm not really good at keeping the staked ones properly pruned so now they're just growing all over the place (tomatoes as a groundcover? Why didn't I think of it before?! haha). Lesson learned! BTW- like the new background on the blog :)
ReplyDeleteI am still using cages made from the concrete reinforcing wire that we used in the foundation of the house we built in 1975! Decades is right!
ReplyDeleteI only will clip off tomato leaves/branches that touch the ground or show signs of disease. Thanks for reminder, Fred.
The "brains" behind the invention of the PVC cages -- Thomas Matkey of Pasadena -- regularly trains his plants to just four "leaders." Yes, he prunes. He prunes extensively. I've seen pictures of his work. I've also seen his plants so loaded with fruit set that it would make any gardener green with envy. Still -- as a rule? I do not prune. Never have. And although I stole Toms' PVC cage design -- I will never adopt his pruning technique. I prefer to let Mother Nature take over. Fruit set on my plantings is now just beginning. Who knows what the garden will look like in August? September?
ReplyDeleteI've always wondered why anyone would recommend pruning a tomato plant. I tried it one year and yes everything was neat and tidy with fewer tomatoes and sun scald..Never again. For the last few years I have adopted a method of overhead support for my tomatoes and it's worked the best for me. I start with a short cage and have an harbor over the planter box which the limbs are suspended from. I haven't been able to recreate this perfect system in my new garden yet.
ReplyDeleteWhat about dead branches & leaves. i removed quite a few of those from my 3 plants...onlyone plant is giving me tomatoes, teh 2nd one has given me 5 yellow pears and the 3rd: Nothing.
ReplyDeleteOMG I'm a first timer with tomatoes and I was doing well nurturing my plants. I left town for a week after feeding them and when I returned they had exploded. I was so happy I was literally dancing. Then I was told that our landscaper/helper said to prune them so the fruit could ripen because it is mid August in the UK and starting to cool a little bit (70's during the day). Though he probably meant I should top them I didn't do my homework and have removed all but the flowering buds and a few of the leaves! Is there anything I can do to save my tomatoes? Help please!
ReplyDeleteCherry tomatoes might give you another bloom/fruit cycle this late in the season. For bigger tomato plants? Chances of the plant flowering, fruiting and ripening in Sept.-Oct. are slim. Nights below 55 (F) and shorter days ahead will shut down tomato production.
ReplyDeleteOn the tomato cages shown, how do you anchor the bottoms? I'm in NW Louisiana and we sometimes get heavy rain in the late spring early summer with significant wind so that the usual store-bought round cages blow over. This can break the plants off at the stem.
ReplyDeleteRuth Ann Moore
The main benefit of pruning indeterminate tomatoes appears to be LARGER, better formed fruits. I have read four peer-reviewed studies that demonstrate this.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, overall production or yield of fruit seems to be smaller, the more pruning you do, as the author of this article indicates.
The trick seems to be to find a good balance that allows an acceptable number of acceptable sized fruits that have the optimal amount of sunlight and the minimal amount of exposure to conditions that encourage plant diseases.
This author knows nothing. In order to grow 6-8 ft plants you need to prune, cut all suckers and flowers till July 1st for Wisconsin at least. Yields are wayyyyyy more than your 3-4 foot plant
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